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I have just toured a facility in Atlanta called Kis Country Club and Golf Academy.  In the tour they had membership options to join with benfits that included: Custom clubs garaunteed for life, Unlimitted lessons from a PGA Professional, and use of their simulators as well a a travel discount club. To get the Travel Club a sale had to be made, I filled out paperwork to show enough interest to buy me a day and still get the travel club membership.  I wanted to hear of anyone elses experience with this membership.  Everyone there was very helpful and nice.  I recieved a dinner certificate, a putt for a cruise and an accomadations package.  The package was for 6,000 and can be financed for about 100 a month for 60 months.  I think I spend that much on lessons.  I see a great value in the membership and want to join.

Hey man,
I have toured a kis facilty in Charlotte and also enjoyed it and saw a benifit.  I live in Charelston Sc an am awaiting a store here.  Whcih is a location in the future on their website @ kisgolf.com.  I also see the value in just the lessons and being able to use the simulators.  I will join when they come to Charleston.  A search of them brings up many positive and negative things.  Which I guess you get what you make of it.  Good luck with your decison buddy and please tell me about everything.

Your right, thre is a lot out there about this company.  I found good and bad things.  Seems to me some people dont agree sith their marketing and sales tactics.  I still feel like I could enjoy what they offer.  I didnt recieve a high oressure tour like some of the others claim.  I am actually sleeping on the decision tonight and thought to do some research on it.  I guess some of the things are trun and some are not.  I will let you know CG1978.  I will let you know about my experience.

Yeah well there seems to be a couple pissed off employees and or members who are making it a personal vendetta.  I think most people know not to believe what is on the interent or emailed to them and spammed to them.  There is stuff going around about a famous golfer gambling away 200,000 at agausta national with members and then trying to not pay up and was forsed to or never be invited back.  People will actually believe this and allow negative commnets thirve and spread like cancer and effect this guys life.  A terrible way to use such a powerful tool, spreading hate that is.  These people are unhappy people, that is all, maybe one day they will be happy again and their attitudes will reflect it.  But anyway do tell about your decision and experience from here on and I will do the same.  If you check those blogs that these people have built they actually have a post to write abou tthe pga professionals.  How awful is that to promote comments about a man just doing his job teaching people golf.  Each site has a pro and it list each site individually.  They are singling out these prof and recruiting people to comment on them.  They dont realize that these guys are people who they are trying to hurt.  Which is wrong no mattter what they may have or not done.  That is one reason I dont really trust those guys on those posts.  They are trying to promote people to write things a bout specific people who work for this company.  That is just waful and then they are saying that the are hear to help people.  How is a couple bad coments about a professional doing his job going to help anyone.  anyway I have gotten on a rant but I just dont think people should act and treat people with that much disrespect for on another.  But this isnt a perfect world.

I wanted to leave a positive note on this site for KiS.  They have been a wonderful experience for myself, my husband and my daughter and son.  They are 14 and 10 and are great little golfers now.  They take lessons every week and we all go together.  Everyone at the facility is very nice to us.  We have never had any problems with Kis golf and enjoy them so much.

If you like Kis and what it can do for your family, that’s great and you should join. But make sure you have all your facts first.
Whether they lied or you misundersood - you won’t get lessons from a PGA professional at their Georgia locations. I checked on all of their pros listed on their website. Only was PGA certified, and it was in another state. You can check yourself to see if someone is a PGA professional by going the the PGA website.
http://dyn.pga.com/searchtools/instruction/instructors/

This is not a vendetta against Kis or someone trying to be mean. Facts are facts. Taking hard earned money by telling lies is not an honest way to make a living, and we shouldn’t just stick our heads in the sand so people can make a living. This is not a stab at the pros, I am sure they are great at what they do, and they are not the ones representing or misrepresenting the product.

But don’t take the blogger’s words for it. Forget about the so called vendetta or smear campaign. Go by the FACTS given to you by the company. GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING, check the the pro with the PGA, check the BBB where you live. If everthing checks out and you like their program you should join.

Now you are wrong golf searcher.  This is a stab at the pros.  It is a stab at myself and proof of how quick you are to assume negative facts about kis and spread them.  I am an emloyee of kis and also a PGA Class A professional.  YOU WONT GET THAT IN GEORGIA.  WOW, that is strange for you to say that.  Now I have read you sites and post and never replied to them but you have turned against me now and I will not read any negative post about me or any colleges without responding back.  You are clearly an idiot who post very blindly.  You no longer have my ear or respect simply becaue of this last post and it discrediting myself.  Guess what, you can have the PGA not list your name on request and I have looked and made sure mine can now be read publicly by anyone who looks.  Great teachers come from other sources also, I shouldnt have to tell you that. So go ahead a put in Boykin Powers, class a member of the georgia section.  After you do that, shut your stinking mouth.  I hope people reading this will see now that this guy is clearly trying to smear the company and in fact is a vendetta.  It is also clear to see his quick and foolish assumptions are often wrong.  would you like to email me, its , yes thats right at pga.com. I wonder how many non members have that email. you are right, facts are facts, and the fact that everyone should see here is that you are an idiot.  I am sorry fo rbeing rude but you have pissed me off. 

Thank You

Boykin Powers

Once again, you distort facts.
First of all I am not, nor do I know the identity of golfsearcher. But if it makes you feel better that all the posts are from one person, oh well. The reality is, there are many of us out there who are trying to expose the truth.

I am going by facts as they are presented on the Kis corporate website-
The Pro listed for Kennesaw Ga is Ned Defanti, who is not in the PGA database
The Pro listed for Lawrenceville Ga is Jason Ganas, who is not in the PGA database.

I am sorry, but I do not see Boykin Powers on the Kis website. At which Georgia facility do you give instruction?

I will correct myself as follows since 99% of Kis Pros have requested the PGA keep them secret: Instead of checking the PGA website, ask to see the Pro’s membership card.

By the way, I am not saying there’s nothing wrong with not being PGA certified, But is wrong that during the sales process, folks are told they “will recieve instruction from a PGA Pro”, when that is not always and not usually the case.

You can call me right now at the lawrenceville store 678 847 0089.  Come by, I will be glad to show you my card.  Here is the membership number - 27322124. So, what you say is wrong again.  And stop telling people lies.  I do not have to prove anything to you.  It just show you dont know the things you talk about.

Once again, you distort facts.

where have I ever posted anything about you, I am asking that you do the same.  I have not distorted anything, I am defending myself against your lies.  You are a bad person who needs to be shut up, and you are going to find that person very soon id you keep this up.

Once again, huh.  I distort the facts.  Where have you ever seen or heard me talk about you until today.  I have been silent.  You are dealing with a whole new beast now.  There has been no distorting of facts on my person, I am asking you to quit posting things that you know nothing about.  Like my association with the PGA.  You are a liar to post this.  And you are getting personal and you will be getting a response from your sorry stuff from now on.

I am a Class A Member of the PGA.  I taught at Kiawah Island Resort, Home of the 2012 PGA Championship, 1991 Ryder Cup and others.  I charged $100 for a 45 minute lesson and $1800 for a three day clinic.  I teach KiS members for free as part of the membership.  I work for a great company and have met some great people who are getting better from my instruction.  You dont know me, you don’t want to know me now.  Your post are intolerable and distasteful and have disrespected me personaly.  You have lost all respect from myself. If you want to continue your smear campaign and get me involved, you will be stopped.  You have not dealt with me, but you will now.

You are the one distorting facts and making idiot assumptions. Please post your facts with facts rather thaning thinking you can assume everything and it be correct.  I can prove many of your post wrong, but I am started with your post concerning me.  ANd here is my oipinion, after viewing your post, i think you are an idiot, and it is easy to see.  But you have made me really angry in the process with your disrepect.

WTF!?!
You can cut the “personal” crap, nobody mentioned your name here but you.

FACT: Boykin Powers is not listed as a Pro on the Kis Golf Website.
How is that a lie?  FACT: Not all Kis Pros are PGA certified. How is that a lie? And what does it have to do with you? The posts were about employees listed by Kis, which you are not. I don’t care what resort you worked for or for how long, Or anything else you say for that matter. I go by what is published by Kis. If you don’t like it, take it up with whoever’s in charge updating their website.

lets start with these facts - may 3 issue of “golfweek” , page 40

Instead of reading false assumptions about KiS golf company on the interent by an idiot.  I am sure the golfers out here have heard of a little magazine by the name of “Golfweek.” Turn to page 40 in May 3rd’s issue.

I know you dont care, I see that you dont care for much of anything or anybody for that matter. But I had to point out your quick judgement and quick post whenever you get some idea.  I dont post on here for you sir, I wanted to tell of my experience and my creditials which are what you say they arent.  It was an effort for people to see you assumption and distortion of the facts.  People are not going to listen to this after reveiwing it all.  Yes, Im not on the website, wow you went and posted all that after just reviewing the website and not really checking yourself the facts.  Great job is discrediting yourself.  Thank you.  Most of my coworkers are affiliated with the PGA, some are with other organizations.  You have not gone on a tour of every facility so you have no idea what sales person says what about the teacher.  In Lawrenceville GA, they can say it, PGA Instruction that is.  Because it is true, unlike your post they spread false assumptions.  How do you know what the salesmen say in other sites.  You only know the sales from one or maybe two sites.  Yet you talk about the sites like you have toured and worked and sitnessed them all. You take the negative and spread it to all and single out the positive things.  Thats is why the post say you are manipulating the sites, and it is easy to see that.  How can you say bad things about some of the stores as they have just opened, if they did make any mistakes I am certain new stores are trying not to repeat those mistakes.  One of them would be employing a person like yourself, who spreads negativity to anyone who will listen.  Yes I am getting personal but you brought it out, I simply reveiwed this site for pleasure and a laugh until your recent posting. Yes I am making assumptions that you are the same person or group of people, because I traced the sites together a long time ago. I am glad I am not on KiS website because of it, you assumed, acted quickly and posted and now people can see the fool you are and how you work.  This forum is supposed to be more than a forum for bickering and smearing.  It should promote golf, exactly what I do as a PGA Member and employee of KiS golf.  KiS provides me with a stage and I provide them with instruction and together we help people and families grow together and learn the great game of golf, and people are beoming more avid golfers.  I am proud of that and I will not tolerate you bashing it at all, especially at my expense. I am sure you are going to continue to make your careless assumptions and spread negativity around n mater who you may hurt.  You can continue to look negatively upon everything but I will not, and I will continue to be a positve and happy contributor to my community.  What are you proving by doing what you are doing.  People can make up their own minds and join or not, it is doubtful they will consider this or read this.  but you are supplying a spot they will promote/create negativity even when there is not.  I just dont see how you could possibly be a good person to be around.  But that is just my opinion and I don’tknow you, but you also do not know me.  But if you are to continue to posts these things, the better not be about myself, and just for future references, do a little more research before you post.  Also think before you post, because it is hard for you to remember what you said yesterday that you might contridict today.  I bet the people around you are proud that you are the owner of a hate blog, or at leat promoter or follower, whatever it may be. I know my friends would be.  It is an awful waste of time and energy on yourself and indirectly mine.  I will continue to point out your credibilty issues as they surley will continue to pop up.  Take that PGA Certifiaction assumption and throw that one away, because you didnt do your research or know everything like you say, your post just lost a little credibilty. So come up with a new assumption to blog about and unfortunatley i will have to waste my time to come and see what new idea you have invented to post about, then I will squash it also. And each time, it will devalue each single letter you post.

Good job, Boykin.  Looks like you got the other thread removed.  Very nice. And kisgolfblog - Boykin was right you did not do your research, he is an KiS indtructor, Class A Member.  But you also foolishly overlooked another one.  Here is a cut and paste from the PGA Member diretory below. So I will ask you this as I have also quoted you below that the reality is you are trying to expose the truth.  Well I believe the table has turned and you have helped us expose yourself. You have now tried to post on the world wide web on a golf forum that two PGA Professionals are in fact not PGA Members.  I dont know if you see the foolishness of your posts but I believe it should come to an end, very quickly. The truth has been exposed, you have done so, maybe not on your terms, but for the good.  I believe once you go and confirm the members you should apologize to them on this thread and by email or telephone.

Ned A. DeFanti, PGA, Member

kisgolfblog - 12 May 2008 03:57 PM

Once again, you distort facts.
First of all I am not, nor do I know the identity of golfsearcher. But if it makes you feel better that all the posts are from one person, oh well. The reality is, there are many of us out there who are trying to expose the truth.
I am going by facts as they are presented on the Kis corporate website-
The Pro listed for Kennesaw Ga is Ned Defanti, who is not in the PGA database
The Pro listed for Lawrenceville Ga is Jason Ganas, who is not in the PGA database.


I am sorry, but I do not see Boykin Powers on the Kis website. At which Georgia facility do you give instruction?

I will correct myself as follows since 99% of Kis Pros have requested the PGA keep them secret: Instead of checking the PGA website, ask to see the Pro’s membership card.

By the way, I am not saying there’s nothing wrong with not being PGA certified, But is wrong that during the sales process, folks are told they “will recieve instruction from a PGA Pro”, when that is not always and not usually the case.